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Steel Channel Stair Stringer Stairs in Advance Steel (Free Template)

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How To Make Easiest Stairs To Fabricate in Advance Steel

The steel stair I build most often has two MC10x8.4 channel stringers, diamond plate steps and a channel-framed landing. It’s simple to fabricate, easy to handle and install, and it saves my clients money. I use it on jobs all over Chicago and the suburbs, and it has always passed inspection for me. Below is how I model it in Advance Steel, step by step, with a free template so you don’t have to set every parameter from scratch.

Download the template here

Steel channel stringer stair in Advance Steel

Code note: the riser and tread sizes below are from IBC 2021 Section 1011.5.2. Chicago, and many other cities, have their own code. Always check the code that applies to your job, and have the design checked by the engineer of record.

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Why build stairs with channel stringers?

  • Standard shape. MC10x8.4 is a common channel, so it’s easy to get.
  • Simple cuts. The stringer ends are straight cuts, plus one notch on the upper flight.
  • Light. Easy to handle and install without big equipment.
  • Simple landing. The same channel frames the landing, with angle supports and a cover plate.

How do I set up the model?

Step 0: open the template

Unzip the download and open the file. Delete the stair and floors in it. You’ll make new ones.

Step 1: make reference floors

  1. Go to Objects > Other Objects > Rectangular Slab.
Rectangular Slab tool in Advance Steel
  1. For the start of the diagonal, type 0,0,0 and press Enter.
  2. For the size, type 8′,12′ and press Enter.
  3. In the dialog, change the size, position or thickness if you need to, then close it.
Slab dialog box
  1. Draw a vertical line the height of floor to floor. Here it’s 10′-4″.
  2. Select the slab, then Tool Palette > Modify > Copy. Copy it from the bottom of the line to the top.
Vertical line for the 10 foot 4 inch floor-to-floor height
Second floor slab copied to the top of the line

Change the color of your helper lines so you can tell them apart from the model.

How many risers do I need?

Divide the floor-to-floor height by the maximum riser height and round up.

IBC 2021 Section 1011.5.2 allows risers from 4″ to 7″ and treads of at least 11″. (Inside R-3 dwellings and R-2 dwelling units it allows a 7¾” riser and a 10″ tread.)

  • 10′-4″ = 124″. 124 ÷ 7 = 17.71, so 18 risers. Each riser is 124 ÷ 18 = 6.89″.
  • With a landing halfway, that’s 9 risers per flight.
  • Section 1011.5.4 allows only 3/8″ difference between the biggest and smallest riser or tread in a flight, so divide evenly. Don’t round each step.

In Advance Steel:

  1. Type CAL to open the calculator and do the math.
  2. Draw a line from halfway between the floors down to the lower floor.
  3. Type DIV, press Enter, select the line, type 9 and press Enter.
  4. Select the line and the division points, type G and press Enter to group them.
Dividing the line into risers
Riser calculation in Advance Steel

How long is the run?

A flight with 9 risers has 8 treads. 8 × 11″ = 88″.

  1. From the edge of the lower slab, draw an 88″ horizontal line.
  2. Draw a vertical line for the first riser.
  3. Move the 9-riser line to the other end of the 88″ line.
  4. Move all the lines 1½” toward the middle of the slab. That’s the flange width of the MC10x8.4 stringer.
Total run worked out in Advance Steel

How do I make the first flight?

Step 4: place the stair

  1. Go to Home > Extended Modeling > Straight Stair.
Straight Stair tool in Advance Steel
  1. Pick option 0 – Start and end points.
  2. Click the top of the shorter line, then the top of the longer line.
  3. Pick which side the stair goes on: 0 left, 1 middle or 2 right.
Start and end points of the stair

Step 5: load the template settings

Loading the stair template from the library
  1. Go to Properties > Library and pick 3-11 Wide Stair MC10x8.4.
  2. Go to Landings > Top Landing Profile and clear Create front and rear.
  3. Close the dialog.
Clearing Create front and rear for the top landing

The stair should look like this:

First flight after loading the template

How do I frame the landing?

IBC 2021 Section 1011.6: the landing has to be at least as wide as the stair, and at least as deep (in the direction of travel) as the stair width or 48″, whichever is less.

Step 6: perimeter channels

  1. Hide the top parts of the stair.
  2. Draw a rectangle (REC) the size of the landing and move it to the top of the first flight.
Landing outline drawn on top of the first flight
  1. Go to Home > Objects > Beam from Line, select the rectangle and press Enter.
Beam from Line tool
  1. Answer Y or N to delete the helper lines.
  2. Pick MC10x8.4 in the dialog and close it.
Landing framed with MC10x8.4 channels

Step 7: inner angle supports

  1. Draw a line from the middle of one channel to the middle of the opposite one. Trim it with TR if you need to.
  2. Copy it 24″ each side (or whatever spacing the job needs).
  3. Beam from Line again, select the lines, and pick L4x4x1/4.
  4. Adjust the offset and rotation so the angles sit right, then close the dialog.
Angle supports inside the landing

Step 8: miter the corners

Tool Palette > Features > Miter. Select two perimeter channels and press Enter. Do every corner.

Mitered landing corners
Miter tool in the Tool Palette

Step 9: cope the angles

Tool Palette > Features > Cope, Parametric. Select the channel, press Enter, select the angle, press Enter. Do both ends of every angle. More on this in copes in Advance Steel.

Coped landing angles
Cope, Parametric in the Tool Palette

Step 10: cover plate

  1. Move the UCS to the top corner of the landing (Tool Palette > UCS > Move UCS).
  2. Home > Objects > Rectangular Plate, 2 points. Click two opposite corners of the landing.
Rectangular Plate, 2 points tool
  1. Set the thickness in the dialog and close it.

Step 11: drop the landing

Lower the landing and plate by the plate thickness (3/8″ here) with M (Move), so the top of the plate is at the landing level.

How do I finish the stringer ends?

Step 12: cut the top of the stringers

  1. Move the UCS to the top corner of the landing, just under the plate, and rotate it so the XY plane is vertical.
UCS moved to the top of the landing
  1. Tool Palette > Features > Shorten at UCS. Select both channels and press Enter.
Both stringers shortened
Shorten at UCS in the Tool Palette
  1. Rotate the UCS so the XY plane is horizontal and run Shorten at UCS on both channels again.
Stringers shortened a second time

Step 13: top cap plates

  1. Home > Objects > Rectangular Plate, 2 points. Click two opposite corners where the plate goes, and set thickness and position.
  2. Weld it to the channel with Home > Objects > Weld Point (pick Continuous if you want).
  3. Copy the plate to the other stringer and weld it.
Cap plate on the top of the stringer
Cap plates at the top of both stringers

Step 14: cut the bottom of the stringers

  1. Put the UCS at the bottom of the stair with the XY plane horizontal.
UCS at the bottom of the stair
  1. Shorten at UCS on both channels.
Shorten at UCS for the bottom of the stringers
Bottom of the stringers shortened
  1. Rotate the UCS so the XY plane is on the face of the stringer and run Shorten at UCS again.
Bottom of the stringers after the second cut

Step 15: bottom plates

  1. Rotate the UCS square to the face of the channel.
  2. Add a Rectangular Plate, 2 points and set thickness and position.
  3. Set the UCS back to World (Tool Palette > UCS) and copy the plate to the other stringer.
Plates at the bottom of the stringers

The first flight is done:

First stair flight finished

How is the second flight different?

Same steps, except the bottom of the stringers sits on the landing, so the stringers get a notch instead of sitting flat on the floor.

  1. Put the UCS parallel to the stringer and 1½” from the first riser, with the XY plane vertical.
  2. Run Shorten at UCS on both channels.
  3. Rotate the XY plane so it’s vertical and parallel to the stringer.
  4. Tool Palette > Features > Rectangular contour, 2 points. Select the first stringer and draw the rectangle to cut out.
  5. Do the same on the other stringer.
Notch cut in the stringer
Rectangular contour, 2 points cutout tool

What does the finished stair look like?

Finished channel stringer stair and landing in Advance Steel

What mistakes should I watch for?

  • Rounding each riser. Divide the total height evenly. The code allows only 3/8″ variation within a flight.
  • Using residential sizes on a commercial job. The 7¾”/10″ exception is only for R-3 and inside R-2 dwelling units.
  • Open risers. IBC 1011.5.5.3 requires solid risers except in a few cases. Where open risers are allowed, a 4″ sphere must not pass through them (some exceptions).
  • Forgetting the rails. Handrails and guards are a separate step. See handrails in Advance Steel.
  • Skipping the engineer. The channel, angle and plate sizes in the template are the ones I use. Your stringer size depends on the span and load. Have it checked.

For every stair option in Advance Steel, read stairs in Advance Steel.

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